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Post by healthy11 on Jul 4, 2012 13:26:31 GMT -5
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Post by eoffg on Jul 5, 2012 5:17:07 GMT -5
Healthy, on the link that you provided, their was an interesting comment? Which noted that if you don't log out of facebook after visiting it? Then it will record all the websites that you go to afterwards.
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 5, 2012 7:57:42 GMT -5
I am trying this abine.com/dntdetail.php# Donottrackplus. By the way, according the Donottrackplus, this site and all proboard sites are also tracking and sending info to ad networks and other companies. It is simple to install and seems to be working. I can see how many companies are tracking and it is also blocked by this add-on
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 5, 2012 9:19:21 GMT -5
Mayleng, I also downloaded DoNotTrackPlus. I do like the way it tells you who is trying to track you. Eoffg, I'd heard about "logging out" from Facebook, as well as Google, before visiting other sites. Interestingly, when I first installed DoNotTrackPlus this morning, I thought I was starting with a "clean slate" (no other browser windows were open besides my Firefox Start Page, and Millermom's site) but DoNotTrackPlus already said that "Google Metrics" was operating...apparently through Proboards? Hopefully, it's blocked now.
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 5, 2012 10:51:33 GMT -5
When I am in facebook, DoNotTrackPlus shows zero tracking unlike the other sites.
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Post by bros on Jul 5, 2012 12:32:47 GMT -5
The tracking is harmless, you know.
It is simply cookies placed on the computer by ad networks to see what sites you go on to target the ads to you
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 7, 2012 10:58:18 GMT -5
In just 2 days, DoNotTrackPlus says they've blocked 1,855 tracking attempts from sites I've visited....incredible! (Bros, one reason I don't want "targeted" ads is because I frequently look things up to help other people, not for my own personal use. For example, yesterday I was investigating medical information for my elderly aunt, but I don't want to be inundated with incontinence products. I also spent time looking up some other info for a neighbor, whose 17-yr-old son committed suicide. A group of us decided to go to the wake together, but most of them kept telling me that "they don't know what to say" to the parents of the boy who died. www.afsp.org gives helpful suggestions and support, and I was sharing some of that info before we went to the funeral... I don't want to be targeted with ads for "legacy" sites or other stuff like that.)
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Post by bros on Jul 7, 2012 11:38:55 GMT -5
Then you can just delete your cookies after things like that, or opt out of googles tracking cookies.
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 7, 2012 13:28:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure how to opt out of all of Google's analytic metrics; DoNotTrackPlus seems to be catching things I wasn't even aware of (it lists all the sites that have tried to grab my info...so many of which I never even heard of before...)
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Post by bros on Jul 7, 2012 14:21:25 GMT -5
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 7, 2012 14:41:16 GMT -5
Do you run any detection software? If so, what does it show tied in to Proboards when you log on? According to DoNotTrack, the ad network AlmondNet is trying to track me, along with Gigya, NetShelter, and Google Analytics. What I do believe is happening to "inflate the figures" is that each time I refresh the page, or go to read a different discussion thread on Millermoms, it records 4 more sites blocked, when in fact it's the same 4 sites each time.
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Post by bros on Jul 7, 2012 21:43:42 GMT -5
In Google Chrome, you can right click, do Inspect element, click Resources, look at cookies. Only one is the proboards and then one from pbid.pro-market.net
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 7, 2012 23:11:42 GMT -5
Bros, I don't have the same computer expertise as you....is it conceivable that because you're using a different operating system than I am, we're being "targeted" by different tracking tools?
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Post by bros on Jul 8, 2012 0:35:26 GMT -5
Bros, I don't have the same computer expertise as you....is it conceivable that because you're using a different operating system than I am, we're being "targeted" by different tracking tools? Nah, ads by the same companies give the same cookies
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 8, 2012 9:09:42 GMT -5
Then why do you suppose I'm being told AlmondNet, Gigya, NetShelter, and Google Analytics are trying to track me through Millermoms/Proboards, but you're seeing pbid.pro-market.net ?
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Post by bros on Jul 8, 2012 12:36:54 GMT -5
Well google is obvious, because of the ads.
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 8, 2012 12:53:27 GMT -5
I guess I didn't ask the question clearly; in reply #101, you said that when you were using Google Chrome and checked the Inspect element/Resources/cookies, on Proboards, it only showed that you were being tracked by pbid.pro-market.net ~ I understand where by being in any Google product, such as Chrome, it's not going to "report" itself (Google analytics) as tracking you, but I'm wondering why Gigya and NetShelter and AlmondNet aren't shown as also trying to track you. According to DoNotTrackPlus, those sites are trying to track me, whenever I log into Millermoms. It's consistent, too, because I can log out and log back in, and then the same names appear.
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Post by bros on Jul 8, 2012 14:51:32 GMT -5
It could be a cookie that proboards is spitting out at your computer to track your viewing habits.
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Post by bros on Jul 8, 2012 14:52:09 GMT -5
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Post by eoffg on Jul 9, 2012 5:19:00 GMT -5
Healthy, I looked up Gigya, NetShelter and AlmondNet as I was curious to find out what they actually do? With Gigya, when you login here, in the login box, their is the line: Login with your social network or forum account. Where you can instead use your facebook, google, yahoo,etc account, to login. Where many forums have this option. So that if you use your facebook account to login to all of the forums that you are a member of? While it can make logging in easier. It means that facebook, etc, have a profile of all the forums that you are a member of. So Gigya is the company that provides the line in the login box.
With Netshelter, it notes websites that you visit, and maintains a profile that it can sell to advertisers. Then with Almondnet, that trawls forums for positive mentions of any product? Which it can then sell to the product company.
Though it raises a question about whether the internet might evolve, to where people will expect to be paid if they visit a website? How much is your internet profile worth to advertisers? Also your recommendation of a product?
Though we are still at an early stage of 'cloud computing', where it wont be long before all of our electrical appliances will have a wifi internet connection. So your supermarket will know what's in your fridge? Cars are already going that way, where they will book themselves in for a service or repair, and send an email to the owner.
Though speaking of cars, I heard a recent report, that in Nevada, a car can now get a drivers licence? As their are now cars that can drive themself.
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 9, 2012 8:24:06 GMT -5
Eoffg, ironically, my son's boss has expertise in "Autonomous Driving" projects, although that's not what my son is working on for his internship. www.digitaltrends.com/cars/destination-home-how-fully-autonomous-driving-might-come-sooner-than-we-think/While I understand the basic concepts of what Gigya, NetShelter, and AlmondNet are doing, I'm still puzzled as to why, when Bros is signed in to Millermom, his computer only reports being tracked by pbid.pro-market.net and NOT the other 3 sites? In other words, I'm wondering if Google Chrome/Inspect/Resources/Cookies is not revealing the entire picture to him (reply #101) OR if DoNotTrackPlus is accurate? I am assuming (perhaps incorrectly?) that whenever anyone logs in to Millermom, we would all be tracked by the same places. I know some websites "guarantee data won't be shared" and so those sites must block external companies, like NetShelter and AlmondNet, but perhaps Proboards/Millermom doesn't want to spend resources to guarantee a private site, or maybe they get a little "financial kickback" for allowing other companies to track their users?
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Post by bros on Jul 9, 2012 12:23:42 GMT -5
It could be reporting it incorrectly.
Since the Gigya thing only appears on the login page.
Perhaps the program has a list of what sites have what tracking cookies?
eoffg, Google has been tested out self-driven cars in Nevada and California, where the cars have licenses. In like 200,000 miles of driving, there have only been 2 accidents
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 9, 2012 12:57:21 GMT -5
Actually, the fact that Gigya is trying to track me appears on every Millermom page, even after I'm signed it. If I switch to another Millermom discussion, the "incremental" number of sites that DoNotTrackPlus reports goes up, but when I click for the details, it's always Google Analytics, Gigya, NetShelter, and AlmondNet. I've never seen pbid.pro-market.net being reported to me, but admittedly, I don't use Google Chrome....
(Bros, would you consider installing DoNotTrackPlus, and see how it compares to Chrome?)
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 10, 2012 9:00:11 GMT -5
Healthy, I have google chrome and it shows NetShelter, goggle analytics ,AlmondNet tracking me when I am in MM. By the way there is incognito mode in Goggle Chrome that can be used, not sure if this will stop the ads.
"Incognito mode (browse in private) For times when you want to browse in stealth mode, Google Chrome offers the incognito browsing mode. Here's how the incognito mode works:
Webpages that you open and files downloaded while you are incognito aren't recorded in your browsing and download histories. All new cookies are deleted after you close all incognito windows that you've opened. Changes made to your Google Chrome bookmarks and general settings while in incognito mode are always saved."
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Post by bros on Jul 10, 2012 11:51:41 GMT -5
Google Chrome doesn't stop the ads, you would need AdBlock for that. It does prevent the tracking cookies from messing with your non-incognito browsing, though.
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 10, 2012 16:14:27 GMT -5
Bros, I'm still perplexed as to why YOUR computer doesn't report NetShelter, AlmondNet, etc. as trying to track you, when you're on Millermom.... Do you use some other kind of blocking program?
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Post by bros on Jul 10, 2012 20:15:26 GMT -5
I use a few programs like ESET NOD32 Security Suite and Malwarebytes
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Post by healthy11 on Jul 23, 2012 15:08:50 GMT -5
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Post by healthy11 on Aug 5, 2012 13:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by healthy11 on Oct 13, 2012 10:27:38 GMT -5
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