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Post by healthy11 on Apr 3, 2015 11:16:14 GMT -5
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Post by aterry on Apr 3, 2015 12:04:35 GMT -5
My husband and I were talking about this very thing last night--the double standard. I've been only peripherally following the Atlanta case until now. Now I'm riveted. I find my mind practically over-whelmed by the many trains of thought this case brings up. The main concept that I'm wrestling with in my mind is the degree to which we're willing, in our society, to break rules on behalf of the institutions we work for--whether those institutions are schools or mortgage companies or sports teams. Also how plastic our thinking is regarding rules. If we don't agree with them, or if they threaten our institution, or our own financial well being, we break them or flaunt them rather than working to change them. Is this because changing them is virtually impossible, as in the case of the trend in our education system toward ever more testing? Yet in the banking and mortgage field it seems to be pure greed. I get lost in my own thoughts.
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Post by aterry on Apr 13, 2015 12:14:47 GMT -5
Sentencing is today in the Atlanta test cheating scandal. This feed is interesting, evidently Andrew Young is testifying: www.ajc.com/aps-trial-verdict/
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Post by aterry on Apr 14, 2015 12:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by kewpie on Apr 14, 2015 14:05:27 GMT -5
While totally agree that the banking industry workers should be punished much more harshly, I hope the author is not inferring that no one gets punished at all.
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Post by aterry on Apr 14, 2015 17:13:41 GMT -5
I can't tell what Dayen thinks about punishment. I think the educators who have resisted admitting wrong doing should not be surprised by the result. The New York State United Teachers has encouraged opting out of today's state-wide tests. I would have welcomed that years ago when the tests were "only" hurting the students. Now that educators are being impacted, too, the teachers are saying "Whoa there." I think the impact of this scandal should be wide spread but I'm not hearing a lot about it in the media or in education circles. I work at a University and no one is talking about it. Here's a 7/21/14 article from the New Yorker: www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/07/21/wrong-answer
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Post by eoffg on Apr 15, 2015 8:30:15 GMT -5
It is of real concern, that teachers that would resort to this to maintain funding for their school? Which no doubt occurs mostly in schools in low socioeconomic areas?
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Post by healthy11 on Apr 15, 2015 10:37:18 GMT -5
I could be mistaken, but not only does this type of cheating maintain funding for their schools, it also helps the teachers keep their jobs and their own salaries may be tied to how well the students in their classrooms do.
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Post by kewpie on Apr 15, 2015 14:02:10 GMT -5
I think this is basically about saving their own jobs and pretending it's about the students. Instead they should be thinking about better ways of delivering instruction so the children will learn. That's the way to raise scores.
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