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Post by Mayleng on Feb 23, 2015 11:37:56 GMT -5
Does anyone know of any online sites (aside from Monster.com that posts jobs? My older son will be graduating soon, and he will need to start applying for jobs soon. He wants to work away from home (ie Buffalo, NY) and wants to try some other cities.
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Post by bros on Feb 23, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -5
Indeed.com posts a lot of jobs. It's much better than Monster.
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Post by Mayleng on Feb 23, 2015 13:54:20 GMT -5
Thanks bros.
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Post by healthy11 on Feb 23, 2015 18:28:28 GMT -5
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Post by Mayleng on Feb 24, 2015 8:06:21 GMT -5
Thanks Healthy, I knew you posted some resources before but I could not find it.
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Post by aterry on Feb 25, 2015 16:46:31 GMT -5
That's an impressive list, Healthy. There are also sites that are specific to industries. For film and tv jobs Mandy.com is useful. We just completed a hiring process and Mandy was one of the sites we listed on.
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Post by shawbridge on Feb 25, 2015 17:09:05 GMT -5
I'm a big believer in using connections if you have them as websites are pretty random and you have to figure out how to appease the resume screening software. That is a problem that ShawD has been having, though she did get an interview and is so good in person that once she gets an interview, she will get the job. She did. She's really pleased as she has and adult salary. She is required to work as an RN over the next 18 months as she gets her degree to be a Family Nurse Practitioner. I would have preferred one of the Harvard teaching hospitals she can walk to but this place is actually a 12 minute walk from her apartment.
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Post by healthy11 on Feb 25, 2015 19:11:20 GMT -5
Aterry, you make a good point about there being industry-specific websites. For example, www.dice.com specializes in tech jobs, and www.rigzone.com deals with petroleum exploration and production. In most cases, however, I think those sites are geared towards candidates who already have expertise in the field, not to those just starting out. Shawbridge, congrats to your DD. It sounds like a good opportunity for her, and the proximity should allow her to strike a better work/school/home life balance than if she started off at a Harvard hospital. It does seem like networking through existing contacts is a great way to get hired (that's how both my husband and I obtained our current positions) but most new grads don't have very large circles of existing professionals to network with. (Shawbridge, I realize that your son, with his entrepreneurial background, is an exception.) My son, unfortunately, wasn't even able to get leads from co-workers that he'd met during his internships, because the company was laying people off and most of the "higher ups" that he'd worked with were too busy trying to land new positions for themselves. I'm ever so grateful that he found the job he has through an ordinary website/resume screening process; I hope he's "expanding his professional network" now, although that's never been his forte. I am concerned that aerospace is a rather "tight-knit industry" and it may be difficult to move into another type of work later, should he want to go elsewhere...
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Post by healthy11 on Mar 9, 2015 10:36:09 GMT -5
I posted this in a different thread, but feel it could be useful here, too: Very good career-starting advice, from career coach Alexandra Levit, can be found at www.jobstart101.org - and listen to her short (less than 5 minute) video clip at finance.yahoo.com/news/pro-tip-for-millennial-workers--stop-trying-to-find-your-passion-193221748.html
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Post by Mayleng on Mar 9, 2015 11:43:46 GMT -5
Totally agree with Alexandra Levit. Those were the advice I gave to both my boys.
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Post by healthy11 on Mar 9, 2015 12:11:23 GMT -5
But as many of us know, kids often listen to "virtual strangers" better than they do their parents! In any case, I think it's very good advice. (Especially the part about NOT necessarily "pursuing one's passion", which flies in the face of what so many kids hear from other people.)
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Post by healthy11 on Mar 12, 2015 16:25:15 GMT -5
I thought this was a good piece of advice, as far as interviewing: finance.yahoo.com/news/ceo-shares-most-impressive-job-190210307.htmlThere will come a time in every job interview where the hiring manager turns the tables and asks, "Now do you have any questions for me?" This is your opportunity to determine whether the job is a good fit, and your last chance to impress the hiring manager — so it's imperative that you ask the right questions. Dave Kerpen, CEO of Likeable Local and author of "Likeable Social Media," recently asked a few of his friends at the Young Entrepreneur Council (YEC), an invite-only organization comprised of the world's most promising young entrepreneurs, to share the one most impressive interview question applicants have asked (or that they wish applicants would ask). In a recent LinkedIn post, he published their responses — which included questions like, "What keeps you up at night?" and "How did you get your start?" — along with his own pick. Kerpen says the single most impressive question a candidate can ask is: How will the work I'll be doing contribute to the organization's mission? ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ As far as a candidate being asked questions by an interviewer, Stephen J. Immelt, CEO of international law firm Hogan Lovells says: "Tell me something you did that was really hard, and that you didn't handle as well as you wish you had." He's "much more interested in listening to a candidate's narrative for how they dealt with failure rather than some kind of triumphalism." He also wants to get a sense of how self-aware a candidate is, and is always interested in hiring people who share his "passion for learning and for changing." He explained that part of being a leader involves a willingness to step up and do things that may be difficult. "You don't always do that perfectly...It's precisely because they're hard that they require some willingness to learn and get better."
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Post by empeg1 on Mar 12, 2015 23:17:53 GMT -5
Healthy,
My youngest daughter is graduating in June. She did not get a job with any of the large, well known companies, but, as a starting out grad, I did not think she would. However, dd did post her resume on career builders and she is getting responses. DD has 4 job interviews next week, not her dream jobs, but jobs, all in LA, where she wants to live. Thank you for the other sites for her to check. I forwarded all of them to my soon to be college grad.
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Post by bros on Mar 13, 2015 6:44:49 GMT -5
All I got from careerbuilder was calls from a bunch of less than savory companies - mostly either multi-level marketing schemes (aka pyramid schemes) or insurance salesmen
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Post by Mayleng on Mar 13, 2015 8:02:36 GMT -5
My son got 4 interviews as well and they were from very suspect companies just as what bros mentioned. So be very careful. Empeg, ask your dd to checkup on the companies before she goes for the interviews.
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Post by Mayleng on Mar 13, 2015 8:03:30 GMT -5
I find most companies have their own netsite, so it is probably better to apply directly to those companies via their own sites.
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Post by healthy11 on Sept 22, 2015 22:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by michellea on Sept 23, 2015 8:22:42 GMT -5
My daughter found her internships on some of the sites listed (I think Indeed or glassdoor). She then did a search on linkedIn for connections. She was amazed when she contacted a former lacrosse teammate who had a connection to an executive at the company and received an e-mail introduction that led to an interview. Likewise, a woman she babysat for was the HR person at a large ad agency and she got first and second interviews. The job she finally landed was via one of my husband's softball teammates (she had babysat for him in the early years). She did not get a single interview when she blindly answered job postings - and she sent out many resumes to well matched positions.
I agree with shawbridge - networking is key.
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Post by Mayleng on Sept 23, 2015 9:02:02 GMT -5
I agree. When my son answered the job ads on those sites, they were all suspect and were more like debt collection. He went for a couple of interviews but felt really funny as they were not giving him much info but wanted him to start. He finally went to a job fair and met a friend/colleague of my hubby. He helped my son get interviews in his Division, since my hubby works in the same organization, my hubby could not get involved. But his friends (all very senior in the organization) helped our son get a job in the same organization but not the same area so here is no conflict of interest. So yes, networking is key.
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Post by healthy11 on Sept 24, 2015 16:00:37 GMT -5
Mayleng, how does your son like his new job? My son seems like he's ready for a change, at least of departments, because he described his current assignment as "mind-numbing," but it doesn't sound like he's confident asking for a different project right now...unfortunately one of his older co-workers just suffered a stroke while at the office, so they're short-handed and trying to sort things out. He's still definitely learning more about "real life" than any textbook or classroom experience can teach!
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Post by Mayleng on Sept 25, 2015 8:55:57 GMT -5
He was very stressed at first learning the new job, and is finding out that working is not as "fun" as college. LOL! Says he would rather go back to college. I think the expectations of our kids what really working is is very different from our generation. They want easy and cushy. He is still learning and still stressed but better. I told my hubby I must be a horrible mother, because when son grumbles etc. I say "Suck it up, it's a job, it's not supposed to fun. You have a job that pays better than most, in a big corporation with lots of opportunities for career advancement. Now is the time to learn and pay your dues."
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Post by healthy11 on Oct 30, 2016 17:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by shawbridge on Nov 12, 2016 0:23:35 GMT -5
ShawD returned from 3 months backpacking in SE Asia and then 2 weeks helping with disaster relief with Hurricane Matthew victims in North Carolina. She is now looking for a permanent job as a Nurse Practitioner. What she is finding is that indeed.com is a very good site, but there is still something of a black hole as you submit resumes and never hear from folks. She's also found that there are lots of recruiters, but they are recruiting for rural sites. She'd like to do primary care or women's health but is finding that these jobs in cities are harder to find (but not impossible). There are specialist jobs in fields like neurology that seem to have demand everywhere. She had a full day interview in Northampton, MA, with a group that has several practices (used to be Kaiser Permanente before they left MA, I believe). She will have interviews with Dartmouth Medical School's teaching hospital, which came from a medical industry site, I believe. She's gotten some interest from Portland OR, where we visited. She's also looking in Boulder/Denver. We've found that connections can only help when a job is open and this is handled pretty mechanistically by the hospitals. But, she can get good words put in after applying online for a job in the institution for which the contacts work.
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Post by eoffg on Nov 12, 2016 8:39:27 GMT -5
Perhaps she could give some consideration of a position in a rural site? Though I'm a bit biased, living in a tiny town, in central Australia. Where Nurse Practioner's, are held in very high regard. As they are difficult recruit and retain. Which gives them greater control of the areas of work they want to work in. They also often have a 'shorter work day'? Simply because it might only takes 10 minutes to get to work. Also housing is often much cheaper.
So perhaps she might consider a rural position?
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Post by healthy11 on Nov 12, 2016 12:54:41 GMT -5
I can appreciate what eoffg is saying, as there is unmet demand for medical care outside of large metropolitan areas, but I can also understand where many younger people (especially those without "significant others") want to be in an environment where they can more easily make friends and participate in entertainment and social events. For someone in the medical profession, who works independently and isn't supposed to compromise the provider-patient relationship, location is even more of a consideration. (ie., she can't ask a nice-looking guy who sees her for a flu shot if he's available to get a cup of coffee later, after she gets off work...)
Curiously, my son is now facing the "downside" of having chosen to work for a company that's several hours away from the largest nearby city of Chicago. While the community he's in does have very affordable costs of living (such that he bought a house two years ago that is 10 minutes from his job,) and he likes his fellow employees, he knows he should expand his knowledge by at least switching to a different department, if not work for a different company. Unfortunately, there are NOT many other engineering job opportunities in the rather distant location that he's in. My son was recently approached by a "headhunter" who set up an interview for him at a company close to Chicago, but the guy he met with essentially said, "Why would you even consider us, since you live more than 50 miles away?" (It was a smaller business, and they won't cover relocation costs...My son may have even mentioned that he could stay with us if he had to work late, but I don't think they were convinced.) I'm not sure it was a "good fit" for other reasons, anyway, but location was a limiting factor.
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Post by shawbridge on Nov 14, 2016 10:53:15 GMT -5
eoffg, Healthy is completely on target. ShawD wants to ensure that she is in a community where she can meet friends (her age) and a mate (Jewish). While she might be happy living with a family in a more rural place (she was doing a search for hippie-ish towns in the US, many of which are not huge), but she would be afraid that she wouldn't find a community of like-minded people there early on. That's why Boulder and Portland are on her list. The job she just interviewed for is in Central Massachusetts, which may be a little weak on post-university adults even though it has a hippie-ish element, but the job is perfect. Who knows after she is married and has young kids? She might want to live in a more rural place. However, one has to think about education for kids. In the US, education is funded largely by local real estate taxes. So rural schools may well be underfunded. There is a great divide in world views in the US between the rural areas (who voted overwhelmingly for Trump) and the metropolitan areas (which voted overwhelmingly for Clinton). So, she might not be comfortable raising kids in very conservative rural areas which weaken their public education (they try to water down teaching of evolution because it didn't happen that that way in the Bible).
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Post by shawbridge on Dec 13, 2016 0:40:30 GMT -5
Well, she took a job in Northampton Massachusetts, which is a college town that has interesting restaurants, a music scene, and has a hippie-ish past. She found a 2 BR apartment at less than half of the cost of the one in Boston and a friend from HS is going to move in in a few months. I'm going to help her buy a car. She has lived in the Boston area almost her whole life and has many friends and relatives. She also now has a BF who lives in the Boston area and doesn't have a car. My guess is between friends, family and BF, she's probably going to be driving back a fair bit.
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Post by healthy11 on Dec 13, 2016 21:56:38 GMT -5
I don't know your daughter personally, but it sounds like she's thoughtfully weighed her choices, and at this point in her career and life, selected a good option. I can fully appreciate her desire to stay within a comfortable distance of "family and (boy)friends" as she establishes herself in a new career in an unfamiliar town. It should give her the "best of both worlds," and it's especially nice that she already has an old H.S. friend in the new area to room with.
Will the job in Northampton give your daughter the chance to do primary or women's care, as she hoped? How soon will she start? In any case, best wishes to her!
P.S. Is your son still out in CA? Do you sense he would like to return to MA someday?
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Post by shawbridge on Dec 15, 2016 19:27:48 GMT -5
The Northampton job is a primary care job. I think they treat kids and adults and seniors. She is a Family NP so she likes the range. What she likes about the practice is that they mentor her in the first year. And as a practice, they consult with each other. A number of the other jobs just throw a new NP in without mentoring. ShawD is undoubtedly on the strong end of her classmates but really wants to make sure she is learning and drawing on the experience of those more experienced. She'll start in mid-January. It is about 1 hour 40 minutes drive to us and a little under 2 hours to where the BF lives.
ShawSon is still in CA. He is having sleep apnea again and is headed for surgery as he can't get himself to stay on a CPAP machine. So, he will take a light quarter for winter and maybe spring and will graduate sometime next academic year (Dec or March/April). He loves the town he grew up in but, having lived in the Bay Area, I don't think he would be eager to come back. He has a GF out there who loves it there, though I think she is likely to be willing to move with him if he took a job elsewhere. But, he is likely to a) start a company or b) make a deal with a search fund to look for a company (probably not in the Bay Area) for up to two years and then acquire the company and be the CEO before he would take a job.
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Post by healthy11 on Dec 17, 2016 23:13:44 GMT -5
Shawbridge, it sounds as though your daughter has chosen a very supportive environment in which to begin her career, which is wonderful.
Your son clearly has a lot of positive things occurring in his life, what with successfully managing a girlfriend, school, and his entrepreneurial interests. I'm sorry to hear that his sleep issue has returned, but hopefully it will be resolved for good with the surgery, and he'll soon be able to get a good night's rest!
(I wish my son didn't have a GF at this point, so he might focus more on prioritizing his long-term career goals. There are few tech companies/ limited engineering job opportunities in the area he's currently at. His GF is a nurse, who should be able to find a work quite easily, but she grew up in that town and has a small, tight-knit family and doesn't want to relocate. For the moment my son is "staying put" even though I know he's not particularly happy with his current job assignment...)
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