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Post by kellyboys on Jul 28, 2004 5:32:32 GMT -5
Does anyone have experience with this program? My ADHD'er recently completed an extensive eval for a central auditory processing disorder and the evaluator is recommending this program...at a cost of about $1900 all told. If it works, it's priceless, but I am hoping that someone here has some experience with it.
Thanks!
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 29, 2004 1:11:43 GMT -5
It works for some and not for others. Really depends on the problem. Try posting your question at www.schwablearning.org, I know a few parents there have tried this program. They will give you their input.
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Post by kellyboys on Jul 29, 2004 5:08:30 GMT -5
Thank you for your reply. You were up late, and I am up early. I went over to schwablearning, but the first search item I picked was lengthy and two moms were fighting...and well, you know how that goes. After reading everything on the site about it, it seems that the issues and problems with my son are the ones that FFW should help. This was recommended to us by this incredible speech and language specialist who just finished testing him.
I guess it's like this...no one else has dropped anything into our laps and said, hey, I think this will really work for you, so I think it's a go and we'll start next week...that way, it will be done, or mostly done by the time school starts.
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Post by swmom on Jul 29, 2004 5:34:10 GMT -5
Like Mayleng, I've heard that for some FFW works and it's almost miraculous, for others, it doesn't do a thing. So, be careful. $1,900 is actually pretty good for FFW. Here in Charlotte, NC we'd be paying about $4,000 for FFW. So, you've got a good price! We also had someone tell us that FFW does not work for kids who are anxious, so keep that in mind, too.
What did you discover that FFW is particularly good at treating? What types of auditory processing problems?
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Post by kellyboys on Jul 29, 2004 5:47:19 GMT -5
The audiologist, speech pathologist slecialist that tested him (this woman really is an expert) says that our son, diagnosed with ADHD since age 4, has an expressive language disorder (oral discussions in school are nearly impossible and he has difficulty writing a story), he has trouble with word retrieval and with filtering. We just got her 10 page report. His I.Q. is superior and his grades are pretty darn good. He is reading just a bit below grade level, has poor word attack skills and difficulty decoding (although this has gotten better with repetition) and is a horrible speller. His handwriting is neat, but laborious, and he does receive OT for this. The worman who evaluated him wrote that he needs speech/language therapy 2x per week. I'm sure the school will love that! His behaviors that get him in trouble are that he is easily frustrated and easily provoked.
We knew something wasn't right when he would ask a question, and then look at us like we were from outer space when we gave an answer. The sad part is that his school would like to say that his seeming difficulty concentrating is ALL due to ADHD. At least now we know otherwise.
The good news is that his school has just agreed to pay for an independant psych eval. They did one almost two years ago that was just plain WRONG.
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Post by TerryB on Aug 1, 2004 22:04:06 GMT -5
Hmm, I wonder if you can purchase it second-hand on-line or is it something that is "used-up" with use. Terry
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Post by TaynTysmom on Aug 20, 2004 22:22:35 GMT -5
Our school district has paid for the product for all three of our elementary schools. We have paid staff that administer it. It is offered to each and every child in the district. They are referred by their teacher or parents. You might be able to get FFW through your district...worth checking into.
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Post by SharonF on Sept 23, 2004 13:15:13 GMT -5
This may be an old thread, but I'll respond anyway. My son did FFW in 6th grade. He had just been diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder, and his SCAN was in the 2nd percentile with equally poor scores on the TAPS and SSW.
FFW was a HORRIBLE experience! The educational specialist who administered it was excellent and very knowledgeable. My son's clinical scores doing the various aspects of FFW went from abysmal to fantastic. But it was very hard work for him. FFW requires 90-minutes of incredibly intense work at a computer every night for eight weeks. There is no way to break it up or slow down the intensity.
Toward the end of the eight weeks, my son was getting Fs on his report card. He was burned out. One night, he curled up in a fetal position and said he didn't want to live anymore. He was serious. I was terrified.
I stopped FFW that night and got him into private counseling that lasted 18-months.
Despite his great clinical score gains, I believe it did NOTHING for his language processing difficulties. That's because my son does not have decoding CAPD. He has excellent phonemic skills. He has Tolerance-Fading Memory CAPD and Integrational CAPD. That means he is a fluent reader with few decoding errors, but weak comprehension and inferencing skills. He is a lip reader. Background noise like air conditioners or lawn mowers is extremely distracting. Most difficult--his right and left hemispheres do not share information well. He is a right hemispheric processor (visual), but he cannot convert those visual thoughts into language. FFW does NOTHING to address Integrational CAPD.
However, we know another family whose son had a lot of decoding problems, he did FFW, and his reading scores increased by two grade levels.
I believe the success of FFW depends on the type and extent of language processing/auditory processing difficulties. It is not good for every kid with auditory processing disorder. If the child also has ADHD, the intensity of FFW might be a disaster!
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