? re reeval and BASC

[deeyana]

We are the middle of a 3 reeval. Today I get word that they are waiting for the OT to do a BASC . This does not sound right I never signed for this test. If I'm not mistaken it's a behavior evaluation. I'm I correct??? Either they are making a mistake or something is up.

[Mayleng]

deeyana, millermom.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Private&action=display&thread=8965

[deeyana]

Thank you Mayleng! That was very sweet of you .

[sld123]

if the ot does not see him regularly for atleast 6 months, such a person is not qualified to rate him

[deeyana]

Are we talking more along the line of ADHD or Aspergers or sensory behavior scale? Regardless I did not sign for any behavior scales.

[tebald]

Thats weird, usually a physcologist (school or private) does this test.

And yes, your right, it is a behavior test.

[ldparent]

isnt it just a questionare?
dont they usually ask several people to fill it out and look at the different reponses in differnt classes vs home etc?

[tebald]

It is a questionare, but it's also scored with T and Z scores from what I remember. I remember my child taking this questionare/test a few times (separete years) and they didn't have anyone else fill it out (the parents or teachers).

[deeyana]

ld parent, beats me?

tebald, do you mind if I ask what exactly is determine form this questionnaire. And what purpose did it serve?

[tebald]

You know what Deeyana, let me go find a copy of one they did when we went to the Diagnostic Center and I can tell you more about it. BRB.

[tebald]

Okay, in this instince they did have a teacher rating and a parent rating along with his self rating. I know there was another time where a school Physcologist did one (self) and not anyone else.

Here's an example of what is said. They only showed the "Problems Rated At-Risk and "Problems Rated Clinically Significant."

The areas that were scored in those two areas where Somatization, Learning Problems, Withdrawel, Study skills (by the teacher)

For the parent it was things like Hyperactivity, Depression, Somatization, Atypicality, Withdrawel, Attention Problems. Then under Adaptive Scales there was Adapatbility, Social Skills, Leadership, Activ. Of Daily Living, and Functional Communication.

For my son's self report his answers fell in this range...
Attitude to School, Atypicality, Locus of Control, Somatization, Social Stress, Anxiety, Depression, Sense of Inadequacy, Attention Problems, Hyperactivity. Under Adaptive Scales it was Interpersonal Relations.

So, althou I can't remember the actual questions, I do know what they look for and this is an example. As I said again they only posted what was Clinically Significant or At risk behaviors.

[deeyana]

Thanks tebald, I really appreciate it!

[sld123]

and mom was not given one to rate?

[michellea]

Tebald - right - the forms are usually filled out by a number of people to get an indication of performance under different circumstances. I agree sld - the parents should absolutely fill one out.

Were you concerned about any attention or organization issues? I've seen BASC used when there is concern about Executive Functioning, social issues, or emotional impact of learning trouble.

[dreampsych]

Hey deeyana,

FYI--an OT is not qualified to administer or interpret a BASC. I'm VERY surprised that an OT would be completing this assessment. Most often school folks are not specific in what their evaluations will entail. However, the team should have discussed the type of assessments they feel are necessary for his reeval. Are there issues with his behavior that the team wants to investigate. And, if so, has the team discussed this with you. Regardless, just make sure you get copies of ALL reports before you head in for an IEP meeting!

Gina.

[sld123]

an ot or any person can be a rater as long as they know the child over 6mo and have regular contact with the child

how many raters are there for this and does the sd use the interater graphing program?

[stitchdad]

The district used the Basc rater during early eval of lilstitch. It was for behavior. His teacher marked off every item.

It came back with a high degree of caution attached to it because there were so many contradictions. There were two other raters that were more in agreement with each other and had a higher validity rating. even so the District kept refering to it as the end all be all that he was "so out of control" not that the teacher filled it out poorly.

[sld123]

and what remediation/sdi was reccomended?

[tebald]

I'm really bothered by an OT doing this too. Is the OT sitting down and having the child do a self test, or is the OT filling it out as a third party?

When our OT sat down and did the sensory profile with my son as a self test, it was fine by me, but if he filled it out on what he saw in the few sessions they had for evaluation, then I would say NO WAY!

I'd feel the same about the BASC except it needs to be done by a Physcologist. And I don't know if it makes a difference but I just double checked and realized the version of the BASC that I gave an example of up above is the BASC II. Not sure how different they two are except I would think they were very similar.

Glad to help Deeyana!

Lainie

[deeyana]

I'm confused. Maybe there's someone eles in class who is being reevaluated. Maybe the information of waiting for OT to do a BASC was confused between my son and another child's . I wrote a letter and sent it in pretty much saying that I never signed for this evaluation. Then I named the evaluations I did sign for. Lets see what ds comes back with today? As far as behavior, this is the third week of school and so far I've been getting daily good reports. Unless this has something to do with the whole ADHD Aspergers debate we had going on last year.

Dreampysch, In the letter today I also asked for copies of whatever evaluation they have completed. When I asked my son he said he was never taken to a separate room and tested. So I really don't think they even started. The teacher wrote that all that they needed to complete the reeval and set up an IEP meeting was the BASC. It might just be that I'm getting the runarounds.

[deeyana]

Your not going to believe this.They are saying that because of end of year academic improvement there is no need to re- evaluate him in the academic area......Don't they have to give him a full evaluation every three years?

I'm looking at the form right now, academic ,occupational and languge are all checked off. Social emotional / behavioral is NOT checked off.

[sld123]

the first step of a reeval is for the team, including you, going over the existing data and deciding what data is needed

you were left out of the team?

so they gave him wiat, woodcock, ect at the end of the yr to compare with the last eval and it shows improvement?

[deeyana]

Sld, they gave him they woodcock prior to me signing for the reevaluation. At that time this test was not for the reeval purpose. And they only tested him in a few areas. In comparison to the last woodcock 3years ago most of the current Woodcock scores dropped lower but are still average. Only math fluency seem to show the largest drop. And In the areas he scored low 3 years ago they didn't test him on it this time.

[tebald]

This is like what my school did when my boys were younger and had a speech IEP. When they re-eval to release them from special ed, they just did teacher observations and did not test. Here they seemed to do a report card review and are doing the same to you.

I would fight this one Deeyana.

[sld123]

they are afraid to

[deeyana]

Sld. I really don't think their afraid. This is all about how much they can get away with. After my first letter I then wrote a second and sent it in with a copy of the reeval form I signed. They responded very quickly saying that they thought they saw this eval (basc) on the form. And they also said that I was correct about ds receiving a academic evaluation. Apparently they said they didn't notice that this was checked off !



When something does not sound right, most likely it's not!

[sld123]

they are afraid, if there is testing and little or no progress or regression, makes it harder for them to get away with more

[deeyana]

Seriously speaking they really try hard to get away with things. You would think that they're working for commission.